Comments on: Comment spam becoming conversational http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html Tech' views that are 667% more interesting than the tech' news itself... Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:48:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: David Bradley http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1445 David Bradley Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:50:02 +0000 http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1445 Personally, I cannot see what benefit any of these spammers hope to gain comment spamming anyway, even if a 1000 comments to one particular site slipped through, no one's gonna click and Google's certainly not gonna rank it. I'll definitely check out Elie's article... db Personally, I cannot see what benefit any of these spammers hope to gain comment spamming anyway, even if a 1000 comments to one particular site slipped through, no one’s gonna click and Google’s certainly not gonna rank it. I’ll definitely check out Elie’s article…

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]]> By: Wayne Smallman http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1444 Wayne Smallman Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:11:24 +0000 http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1444 Hi David! That's something I've thought of before myself — what if the spammers actually tried to make their comments at least vaguely relevant? The value in the comment is the value of the comment. It's not like the spammers are going to earn themselves huge ranging status from piddling spam comments which go straight into the yawning jaws of Akismet. What extra effort they'd invest would probably save them from the same fate as all those other spam comments that befall the traps of most other well-guarded 'blogs. Elie, thanks for the comment and the back-link! I actually found your article while scanning my web statistics. So I commented on your article before my own! I think the rest of the guys should read Elie's article. It seems to be very thorough... Hi David! That’s something I’ve thought of before myself — what if the spammers actually tried to make their comments at least vaguely relevant?

The value in the comment is the value of the comment.

It’s not like the spammers are going to earn themselves huge ranging status from piddling spam comments which go straight into the yawning jaws of Akismet.

What extra effort they’d invest would probably save them from the same fate as all those other spam comments that befall the traps of most other well-guarded ‘blogs.

Elie, thanks for the comment and the back-link!

I actually found your article while scanning my web statistics. So I commented on your article before my own!

I think the rest of the guys should read Elie’s article. It seems to be very thorough…

]]> By: Elie Bursztein http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1443 Elie Bursztein Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:40:32 +0000 http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1443 Well a few days back I had a spam mail like this. The guy was supposed to come from russsia. However the true origin was nederland... I fine such spam as a collateral effect : people won't give any more to online fundation because they will no be able to know if it is a true fundation or an other scam. I also <a href="http://www.inftoint.com/target/software/blog-trackback-spam-analysis/" rel="nofollow">wrote an entry about trackback spam</a> as Heidi Cool. It seems that it became an hot topic these days Well a few days back I had a spam mail like this. The guy was supposed to come from russsia. However the true origin was nederland… I fine such spam as a collateral effect : people won’t give any more to online fundation because they will no be able to know if it is a true fundation or an other scam.
I also wrote an entry about trackback spam as Heidi Cool. It seems that it became an hot topic these days

]]> By: David Bradley http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1442 David Bradley Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:57:17 +0000 http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1442 Another thought on conversational spam. If it was pertinent, interesting and had actually been written to add to the post conversation, then there'd actually be nothing wrong with editing the comment to remove their spam link (perhaps replace it with one to your own affiliate network if you're involved in such things), and then approve it. That way, not only does your blog get busier but you might actually make a couple of bucks out of it too. db Another thought on conversational spam. If it was pertinent, interesting and had actually been written to add to the post conversation, then there’d actually be nothing wrong with editing the comment to remove their spam link (perhaps replace it with one to your own affiliate network if you’re involved in such things), and then approve it. That way, not only does your blog get busier but you might actually make a couple of bucks out of it too.

db

]]> By: Wayne Smallman http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1404 Wayne Smallman Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:24:05 +0000 http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1404 Hi guys, that's the reason I didn't want to repeat verbatim any of the spam comments I received, just in case I incurred the "wrath of the search engines" which really wouldn't be good at all... Hi guys, that’s the reason I didn’t want to repeat verbatim any of the spam comments I received, just in case I incurred the “wrath of the search engines” which really wouldn’t be good at all…

]]> By: Heidi Cool http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1403 Heidi Cool Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:41:21 +0000 http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1403 Indeed, I've thought about writing such a post then wondered how much more spam that would get! Indeed,
I’ve thought about writing such a post then wondered how much more spam that would get!

]]> By: David Bradley http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1402 David Bradley Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:58:16 +0000 http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1402 Heidi, there's another blog post in the fact that that particular post became a spammy magnet. db Heidi, there’s another blog post in the fact that that particular post became a spammy magnet.

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]]> By: Heidi Cool http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1401 Heidi Cool Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:42:12 +0000 http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1401 I've been getting that sort of spam as well. A recent one said "My husband likes photography so much. He will surely like your post because this will really help him more understand about positioning of photos. Thanks for the great post." The site link was to an autoparts store, but the comment was vaguely relevant to the post on using CSS to position photos, so I kept it. I wrote <a href="http://blog.case.edu/webdev/2007/05/08/comments" rel="nofollow">an entry about spam comments</a> last spring in which I tried to come up with a checklist I could use to determine which to keep and which to pitch. It was a good starting point but still not sufficient. There are some comments I still muddle over. But if they don't make sense, or do make sense but have nothing whatsoever to do with the topic then I'll pitch them. David's right that this is great fodder for blogging, but when I wrote my comments entry I found that it became an instant spam magnet itself! I’ve been getting that sort of spam as well. A recent one said

“My husband likes photography so much. He will surely like your post because this will really help him more understand about positioning of photos. Thanks for the great post.”

The site link was to an autoparts store, but the comment was vaguely relevant to the post on using CSS to position photos, so I kept it.

I wrote an entry about spam comments last spring in which I tried to come up with a checklist I could use to determine which to keep and which to pitch. It was a good starting point but still not sufficient. There are some comments I still muddle over. But if they don’t make sense, or do make sense but have nothing whatsoever to do with the topic then I’ll pitch them.

David’s right that this is great fodder for blogging, but when I wrote my comments entry I found that it became an instant spam magnet itself!

]]> By: Wayne Smallman http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1388 Wayne Smallman Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:47:10 +0000 http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1388 Yes, the problem was that Jay's comment went into the spam filter and I grabbed his and one other (by accident), to de-spam. How sadly ironic... Yes, the problem was that Jay’s comment went into the spam filter and I grabbed his and one other (by accident), to de-spam.

How sadly ironic…

]]> By: David Bradley http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1387 David Bradley Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:38:10 +0000 http://www.blahblahtech.com/2007/12/comment-spam-becoming-conversational.html#comment-1387 I just received two auto followups via your system from this post. One of them appears here (Jay's comment) and another that was obviously spam you must have manually deleted. db I just received two auto followups via your system from this post. One of them appears here (Jay’s comment) and another that was obviously spam you must have manually deleted.

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